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I’m coming from a 2001 rk-tuned bmw 328ci was wondering what’s the reliability on these Hyundai’s I have my eyes set on a black one with 43k miles directly from the Hyundai dealership from Ontario any concerns ? Let me know going to buy this car next week Sunday !!
 

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As long as you keep up on the maintenance you should be fine. I have 67k miles on my 2017, beat the hell out of it, and have had zero issues outside of a squeaky cooling fan that was replaced twice.
 

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Since you're buying from the Hyundai dealership directly, you should make sure that the ES is certified pre-owned to get the continued warranty.
 
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There is a difference in quality between a European auto and Hyundai. Take it for a test drive and you will see it. Price and performance wise you can’t beat what the Elantra Sport offers. It is why I bought one, but quality wise I definitely seeing the difference.
 

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As long as you keep up on the maintenance you should be fine. I have 67k miles on my 2017, beat the hell out of it, and have had zero issues outside of a squeaky cooling fan that was replaced twice.
Is the squeaky cooling fan just a known thing? Mine has squeaked every day when turning the car off since the day I bought it. Kinda annoying but has never caused a issue other than making noise. So I have never had it replaced.
 

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I've been eyeing this one a little...the Carfox is a little troubling, and it seems that the owner wore the steering wheel and shift knob out
 

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I've been eyeing this one a little...the Carfox is a little troubling, and it seems that the owner wore the steering wheel and shift knob out
He did mess up that shift knob, but the steering wheel just looks dirty. Shift knob is a easy replacent. Kinda looks like they just didn't do a good job of cleaning it. Personally, I would by a Hyundai certified pre-owned to preserve the warranty, especially if you believe there are red flags with how the old owner took care of it.
 

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Is the squeaky cooling fan just a known thing? Mine has squeaked every day when turning the car off since the day I bought it. Kinda annoying but has never caused a issue other than making noise. So I have never had it replaced.
It just squeaked after shutting the car off and the fan spun to a stop. The first replacement started doing it after 6 months, so I had them replace it again. So far so good. Not a common issue as far as I know.
 

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There is a difference in quality between a European auto and Hyundai. Take it for a test drive and you will see it. Price and performance wise you can’t beat what the Elantra Sport offers. It is why I bought one, but quality wise I definitely seeing the difference.
I think you mean 'quality of materials'. The Audis and BMWs all have a higher level of luxury and better tactile feel for all the interfaces in general. But let's be fair here...I paid $18K for my 2017 6MT with Premium Package plus title, etc. That's $14K less than the entry level Audi A3 at the time, or put another way, after factoring tax and dealer fees, the Audi was very nearly TWICE the price of my ES! Our ES's are also far cheaper to maintain and insure. Engineering-wise, quality to me means a combination of functionality (functions as designed) and durability (hey, it's a daily commuter, not an F1 race car). By this definition, the ES and Hyundai's in general are certainly very high quality cars. FWIW, my ES has 46K miles and has had only one problem (steering strut) which was fixed under warranty over a couple of visits and 2 weeks total. Yes, a PITA, but my local dealership's service center was FANTASTIC to work with - courteous, professional, and communicative - and did indeed fix the issue. Can't ask for more.

But I agree with your point. There's just something intangible about German sports sedans...! In the motorcycle worlds, my old Yamaha didn't have it, but my Ducati Monster had it in spades.
 
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