[R1600Turbo]

So I've been posting about this over on my facebook group, but thought I would put it here for easy access. Last night I did some research and tried to find out where else Hyundai (and Kia) were using the 6-speed manual that comes with the ES. A little bit of digging after someone mentioned that Bisimoto had an LSD for the 1.8/2.0L N/A cars, I came up with some matching gear ratios and a part number for the 2.0L trans but not much else. I put together a small spreadsheet of the ratios based on official numbers from Hyundai (see attachment below).

A further search this morning pulled up a custom Quaife LSD available for the Veloster Turbo at Pierce Motorsport, so I shot them an email and received this response:

2012-2017 Hyundai Veloster and Turbo Quaife Limited Slip Differential - Pierce Motorsports

Hello there-I believe they will fit---we haven't actually seen the trans apart (and probably wont for a while), but looking at axles and ratios they appear to be the same.

Regards,

Jim Pierce

The price is quite high at $1,699 but I am wondering if we can get several people to commit to a purchase, maybe we can get a group buy discount or something.

 

[Voodoo Idol]

Oosh! that's pricey, and we haven't even talked install. If there were a group buy with something more than a 10% discount I would be interested.

 

[R1600Turbo]

I asked about a group buy discount and Jim said they could probably do something. Apparently they are "quite expensive to modify".

 

[Voodoo Idol]

I would imagine it would be. It's a fairly complex device.

 

[swampdonkey]

So I've been posting about this over on my facebook group, but thought I would put it here for easy access. Last night I did some research and tried to find out where else Hyundai (and Kia) were using the 6-speed manual that comes with the ES. A little bit of digging after someone mentioned that Bisimoto had an LSD for the 1.8/2.0L N/A cars, I came up with some matching gear ratios and a part number for the 2.0L trans but not much else. I put together a small spreadsheet of the ratios based on official numbers from Hyundai (see attachment below).

A further search this morning pulled up a custom Quaife LSD available for the Veloster Turbo at Pierce Motorsport, so I shot them an email and received this response:

2012-2017 Hyundai Veloster and Turbo Quaife Limited Slip Differential - Pierce Motorsports



The price is quite high at $1,699 but I am wondering if we can get several people to commit to a purchase, maybe we can get a group buy discount or something.

Love that you founds this, but hate the price.

 

[childofthekorn]

Found this in a search. Curious if anythings been found since?

 

[R1600Turbo]

Found this in a search. Curious if anythings been found since?

It fits for sure, nobody has spent the money yet though.

 

[ericsmit]

I'm not afraid of spending a little money.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Has anyone bought this yet? Do we know for sure that it fits? I'm seriously considering it. I think this makes alot more sense as an upgrade than a bigger turbo on this car (which just exaggerates our traction problems). Makes the car faster in a very functional way without blowing up your motor.

 

[R1600Turbo]

Has anyone bought this yet? Do we know for sure that it fits? I'm seriously considering it. I think this makes alot more sense as an upgrade than a bigger turbo on this car (which just exaggerates our traction problems). Makes the car faster in a very functional way without blowing up your motor.

I was 99% in for doing it, then after talking with Josh at KDM Tuners I decided not to. The LSD itself is not actually made for our cars, they have to send them off to a machine shop and have them modified. Hence why it's so expensive. The reason I decided against it was the fact that I was told it's super clunky and noisy. Good for a track toy, not the best idea for a daily driver.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

I was 99% in for doing it, then after talking with Josh at KDM Tuners I decided not to. The LSD itself is not actually made for our cars, they have to send them off to a machine shop and have them modified. Hence why it's so expensive. The reason I decided against it was the fact that I was told it's super clunky and noisy. Good for a track toy, not the best idea for a daily driver.

What about the Cusco LSD that IS designed for our car? Have you heard anything about that? It's cheaper too.

http://www.piercemotorsport.com/2017-2018-elantra-sport-cusco-limited-slip-differential/

 

[R1600Turbo]

What about the Cusco LSD that IS designed for our car? Have you heard anything about that? It's cheaper too.

2017-2018 Elantra Sport Cusco Limited Slip Differential - Pierce Motorsports

That's the one I am talking about. KDM Tuners and Pierce are pretty much hand in hand. Different companies but they work together.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

So which one is loud and clunky, the Cusco? If the only downside to the Quaife is that it has to be modified and is a bit more expensive, that wouldn't stop me.

 

[R1600Turbo]

So which one is loud and clunky, the Cusco? If the only downside to the Quaife is that it has to be modified and is a bit more expensive, that wouldn't stop me.

Was told the Cusco was loud and clunky. The Quaife never came up in the conversation, but judging by it'd description it sounds like both of them need to be modified in some way to work.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Ok, that makes more sense as Cusco is a clutch LSD while the Quaife is a helical unit which is what you get in awesome cars like the Civic Type-R. If the necessary modifications to the Quaife LSD don't compromise its reliability, longevity, or function in any way, I am definitely getting one.

 

[Avante]

Ok, that makes more sense as Cusco is a clutch LSD while the Quaife is a helical unit which is what you get in awesome cars like the Civic Type-R. If the necessary modifications to the Quaife LSD don't compromise its reliability, longevity, or function in any way, I am definitely getting one.

Did you end up with one? I see quaife is factory for the Detroit 3, so I'm also very tempted...


I am actually here (as a member) because lack of LSD is a bit lousy... I have told everyone over the past 2 years that this car is my dream car from when I was a kid with 4 door compromises perfect for me as a dad, down to it having the best looking rims I have ever seen. Like if these were aftermarket in a catalog I'd pick them...




Turbo just as all 'cool' cars in the 80s, 90s, and it's a great looking car, kind of like if the g70 is forward looking, the 2017/2018 Elantra is the ultimate " late 90s-now sports bubble fwd sedan" design, I'd say.



Just need that Mechanical LSD to be perfect (as in my personal dream car). I legit plan to keep this car, If I have my 1972 charger, and this, in 30 years, I'll be happy. Of course, hanging around here I'll have a piston sized hole in the valve cover...

 

[jmicu]

Keep me up to date on the LSD options in this thread. I would love to purchase one on my ES before buying any other mods first.

 

[R1600Turbo]

Keep me up to date on the LSD options in this thread. I would love to purchase one on my ES before buying any other mods first.

What you see is what we get at the moment. Nobody has purchased yet as far as I know.

 

[Voodoo Idol]

Keep me up to date on the LSD options in this thread. I would love to purchase one on my ES before buying any other mods first.

Maybe keep yourself updated?

 

[jmicu]

This is what I received from Quaife sales.




Good Morning Jon,



Thank you very much for your enquiry;



Please find attached the technical drawing for the QDH21B, please usethis to compare the size of the differential in your vehicle as I’m not able tosay that this will fit with or without modification.


If the axle is shared between the vehicles it is likely that it willfit, but it is up to you to ensure the parts are the correct fitment.



If you have any further questions or I can be of any assistance in thefuture, please don't hesitate to contact me.



Thanks and kind regards



Rob Vickers


Technical Sales








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