Hey fellow manual drivers. Do you guys heel-toe / rev match when downshifting? Does this car automatically do this for you? This is my first car that I've ever driven that was not more than 10 years old, I just don't know if its necessary anymore!
It definitely does not do it for you. I rev match every down shift unless I am rolling slow and going into second or something. I never needed to match up shifts because the revs don't fall too quick. You just have to get the timing right and it is super smooth.Hey fellow manual drivers. Do you guys heel-toe / rev match when downshifting? Does this car automatically do this for you? This is my first car that I've ever driven that was not more than 10 years old, I just don't know if its necessary anymore!
I feel our cars have a slight rev hang, which is not easiest to drive smooth.It definitely does not do it for you. I rev match every down shift unless I am rolling slow and going into second or something. I never needed to match up shifts because the revs don't fall too quick. You just have to get the timing right and it is super smooth.
Seems like every car these days have some. I think it's an emissions thing. Having the AC on all but gets rid of it. Honda seems to be the most severe which is part of the reason I chose the Elantra over the Civic. I had two 8th gen Civic Si's and it was terrible.I feel our cars have a slight rev hang, which is not easiest to drive smooth.
You sound like me... Every time I try to heel and toe I end up jamming the brakes and then messing up. I really do not think you should heel toe on the street anyway. It just isn't necessary. Rev matching, however, is good for the car and eliminates jerkiness. Plus with this car it'll cause a pop which sounds awesome.I can't heel and toe, I have tried for years and I fail miserably. I just feel like my brain can't process that many movements at once lol. I do however just blip the throttle and down change to forth and/or third without using the brakes if I am coasting to a stop light.
Upgrading to a lighter flywheel could resolve this some. I imagine the factory flywheel is in the 17-20lb range. Heavier flywheels on turbo motors help keep the rpms higher between shifts, thus keeping you in boost between shifts. The factory tune also implements a slight hold on the throttle during shifts for emissions purposes. A stage 0 tune will likely clean that part up.I feel our cars have a slight rev hang, which is not easiest to drive smooth.
I'm not sure if it's done this way for emissions purposes, but it's typically a dual mass flywheel that creates the effect.Seems like every car these days have some. I think it's an emissions thing. Having the AC on all but gets rid of it. Honda seems to be the most severe which is part of the reason I chose the Elantra over the Civic. I had two 8th gen Civic Si's and it was terrible.
I decided to conduct some Google research and found this:I'm not sure if it's done this way for emissions purposes, but it's typically a dual mass flywheel that creates the effect.
Yeah, you need clown shoes to pull it off in this car. There is way too much difference in height to get a correct amount of throttle. Hopefully, someone discovers a way, or develops a bracket that will fix the pedals so they line up betterYes i heel toe downshift when slowing down for turns and curves. Usually when im driving spiritedly. However i will say that heel toeing on these particular cars isnt as easy to do as on hondas or toyotas. The brake pedal is pertrued out slightly too much. It is easier than some other cars though.
Thanks for answering! I think you got my drift. I originally was asking specifically about downshifts before corners when heel-toe is necessary. I was hoping there would be some magical auto rev match.A lighter flywheel definitely makes revs go up and drop much faster, but it also adds more chatter noise at idle. I also don't see a need to heel and toe if you're not racing. It's only smooth when you're breaking hard into a corner or something. If you're coming to a light or not braking as hard and heel-toeing, it'll be jerky and pointless. All you have to do is tap quickly on downshifts. On upshifts just don't let go of the clutch too fast. Once you get the rhythm it's easy.
Question here as I'm always curious how other ppl drive their manuals. lets say you are slowing down to go over a speed bump or to pull into a steep parking lot entrance. In this situation I'd usually brake down to 4mph or less (just rolling), clutch in, shift into first and slowly go over or up. I don't really notice any jerk in the car or hear any grinds in the transmission.Yeah, you need clown shoes to pull it off in this car. There is way too much difference in height to get a correct amount of throttle. Hopefully, someone discovers a way, or develops a bracket that will fix the pedals so they line up better
I rev match every downshift, and depending the situation the upshifts too.
I had a 370 for a short while, and it auto rev matched, I really didn't care for it.
Geez, ain't that the truth! SF streets are tough to drive, especially in rush hour.I've tackled S.F. streets and downtown Seattle streets with no issues, those are properly the hardest there is, especially during stop and go traffic up a steep bank.
Same here. I've experimented by leaving the car in 3rd gear until it almost stalls and the downshift light (if there actually is one) didn't come on. OTOH, I find that the upshift light is very useful if you want to maximize fuel economy.does your car tells you when to downshift? I have the indicator but only upshift.